Review That Review with Chelsey & Trey
Episode 164: "Hamburger Mary's: 1 vs 5 Stars"
Transcription
*Please pardon any and all spelling errors!
[00:00:00] CHELSEY DONN: Get those two worn out butt pads, put them together, and see if you can form half a brain.
[00:00:07] TREY GERRALD: Okay.
[00:00:09] THEME SONG: Everybody's got an opinion.
Every Californian and Virginian.
It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore.
Someone's gotta settle the score.
Trey and Chelsey will help you choose!
Whose views win, which ones lose.
Online haters are comin' for you!
Baby, it's time to Review That Review!
[00:00:38] CHELSEY DONN: Hello,
[00:00:40] TREY GERRALD: hello! This,
[00:00:42] TREY GERRALD: we're, we're going into my complaint, but, Hi! Welcome! Welcome! Oh my god. Welcome! Hello and welcome to Review That Review. We are the podcast that is dedicated to reviewing
[00:00:57] CHELSEY DONN: Reviews,
[00:00:59] TREY GERRALD: That's a Normal Voice, Chelsey
[00:01:01] CHELSEY DONN: and that's a little squeaky voice, Trey Gerald,
[00:01:05] TREY GERRALD: But together we are,
[00:01:07] VOICEOVER: The Review Queens,
[00:01:11] CHELSEY DONN: that's right, and Trey, it's your turn this week, I'm guessing you might like to,
[00:01:16] VOICEOVER: Ledge a complaint,
[00:01:18] TREY GERRALD: well, you obviously all can hear. And now that I'm going to be talking about it, my voice will probably be normal, but something is going on with me.
[00:01:24] TREY GERRALD: I noticed the last couple of days, like my throat was sore. So I was like, okay, maybe it's like the seasons and we had to do this whole thing with our air conditioning.
[00:01:32] TREY GERRALD: But at work yesterday, I noticed as I was talking, like my voice would just go in and out, which is like really uncomfortable in a professional setting to be like, excuse me. And so I wrote down, well, I wrote down losing voice, but the complaint is the circumstances around it, the interactions around it, and I'm just now in this moment recognizing this is an audio medium, so there's no disguising it, I don't know what's happening, maybe it's just a little, like, cold or something, but my voice just sort of pops in and out every now and then, and if I try to be, uh, inflective or anything, sometimes I can't.
[00:02:10] TREY GERRALD: And I remember when I was doing a one person show, I would, like, steam before the show, and I took it so seriously, and very concerned about losing my voice, because one run through, I, like, lost my voice for a second, I had to, like, stop, and, like, drink water, and so then, of course, I was terrified of that the entire time, but it really did make me think, like, what it must be like to play Elphaba on Broadway, because I just can't, I can't imagine the trauma and the strain and the fear,
[00:02:35] TREY GERRALD: That, that you just live in, but I don't think I'm, I think I'm a little under perhaps, but my complaint is losing the voice because it's, as a control freak, it's something you just have no control over, and then like, I don't know if I want to preface it before it happens or just wait until it happens,
[00:02:51] TREY GERRALD: but then sometimes it's like, Even, like, the clearing the throat action, like, I can tell, like, I'm not actually clearing my, I don't know what it is, I'm not coughing anything up, I don't know what's happening, it's just, feels very dry, a little bit sore, the voice goes in and out, so, that's my complaint, everyone, what are your thoughts, Chelsey,
[00:03:09] CHELSEY DONN: Well, you know that I have one thought right off the bat, Trey, which is,
[00:03:12] TREY GERRALD: Grethers,
[00:03:13] CHELSEY DONN: where's your brother's?
[00:03:15] CHELSEY DONN: Where is your brother's?
[00:03:17] TREY GERRALD: it didn't occur to me until this moment,
[00:03:19] CHELSEY DONN: I just put a pop to Gruthers myself. I think Gruthers is the solution to all things vocally related. So anyway, I'm sorry you're feeling a little under the weather, Trey, but complaint lodged.
[00:03:32] CHELSEY DONN: And hopefully this Gruthers, do do do do do do do, brings all the vocal magic and makes you, I don't know, it's like a DW40 for your voice, I hope.
[00:03:42] TREY GERRALD: I love Grethers and coffee together,
[00:03:44] CHELSEY DONN: ha ha ha,
[00:03:45] TREY GERRALD: alright, Queen, are you ready to go, hand to hand, oh, I can't do it,
[00:03:49] CHELSEY DONN: Are you ready to go head to head?
[00:03:51] TREY GERRALD: I am, let's do it!
[00:03:53] VOICEOVER: that kvetch, Review
[00:03:54] TREY GERRALD: everyone, today is another ver
[00:03:57] TREY GERRALD: see?
[00:03:57] CHELSEY DONN: I could do it. Do you want me to do
[00:03:59] TREY GERRALD: No, I think it'll be funny if it? just pops in and out, but thank you.
[00:04:02] TREY GERRALD: Today is another Versus episode, and y'all know that that means we are gonna cover the same topic, but we're gonna be covering both a one star and a five star.
[00:04:11] CHELSEY DONN: that's right. For this versus episode, Trey has selected the one star and I have selected the five star.
[00:04:17] TREY GERRALD: da ding!
[00:04:17] CHELSEY DONN: So to determine who reads first, we got to flip that quarter. Yes.
[00:04:23] TREY GERRALD: I'm gonna say tails. And it is heads.
[00:04:26] CHELSEY DONN: All right. So I guess that means we're going to hear the five star.
[00:04:30] TREY GERRALD: Well, today, everyone, Chelsey and I are going to be collecting data from both ends of the spectrum of online reviews for good old Hamburger Mary's in West Hollywood. At the time of this recording, there are 2021 reviews on Yelp with an average score of 3. 6 out of 5, and 108 reviews on TripAdvisor with an average score of 3.
[00:04:52] TREY GERRALD: 5 out of 5. So those are sort of unanimous according to their website. Hamburger Mary's is an open air bar and grill for open minded people, serving a full menu of tasty items, big and juicy gourmet burgers, yummy apps, soups, salads, and entrees, and an extensive bar menu featuring craft beers and cocktails. Hamburger Mary's offers a flamboyant dining experience along with nightly entertainment. From our, quote unquote, Dining With The Divas, drag shows, and charity, quote unquote, Ham Bingo Marys, to Marioke, Karaoke, and Trivia Nights. The first Hamburger Marys opened in San Francisco. We keep going to San Fran!
[00:05:44] CHELSEY DONN: I know, you're right.
[00:05:46] TREY GERRALD: The first Hamburger Mary's opened in San Francisco in 1972 and continues to expand today with three locations in California, two in Florida, as well as prominent locations in Colorado, Missouri, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, and Wisconsin. We are also known for our charity fundraising and support for our communities, especially among the LGBTQ community.
[00:06:10] TREY GERRALD: Hamburger Mary's, their tagline is, eat, drink, and be, dot, dot, dot.
[00:06:15] TREY GERRALD: Mary.
[00:06:18] TREY GERRALD: All right. So with all of that background info, let's jump in.
[00:06:22] CHELSEY DONN: let's do it.
[00:06:26] VOICEOVER: Review, I
[00:06:31] CHELSEY DONN: Trey, we didn't really discuss this a little bit at the top, but quickly, Trey recently came and visited LA. I think we talked about this and we actually went to Hamburger Mary's.
[00:06:40] TREY GERRALD: Yes. We did
[00:06:41] CHELSEY DONN: To this particular location. So we do have a little bit of insider Baseball knowledge here,
[00:06:48] TREY GERRALD: opinions
[00:06:49] CHELSEY DONN: some opinions, including a picture inside which we'll have to post on our socials when this episode airs. But Trey, I'm gonna start things off cheery and bright. Alright, so as we know I have the five star review. It is written by Tessie B. The way they spell it is interesting, T E S E E B, Five
[00:07:13] TREY GERRALD: to cb.
[00:07:14] CHELSEY DONN: Star Review on Yelp, Tessie is an elite reviewer who's contributed over 634 reviews, five Thousand and 327 photos and has 538 followers.
[00:07:28] CHELSEY DONN: So let's find out what Tessie has to say about Hamburger Mary's in West Hollywood.
[00:07:35] TREY GERRALD: All right. Here we go.
[00:07:38] VOICEOVER: am what I am, and what I am needs no excuses, I feel my own deck, sometimes the ace, sometimes the deuces, From
[00:07:53] CHELSEY DONN: that's what goes through my head when I think of this place.
[00:07:57] VOICEOVER: the
[00:07:57] CHELSEY DONN: it, forget that the burgers are fantabulous and the drinks are ginormous, it's the welcoming upbeat atmosphere and the feeling like you belong that gets ya, all whilst, oh god I hate that word, all whilst the MC is calling you out or shaming you, all in fun of course, the music makes you want to dance. I did, and enjoyed watching several others doing the same. This evening was like any other, filled with fun, laughter, various celebrations, and amazing performances. Each performer had their own vibe and style, which made it exciting to watch. What would they be wearing next? And what will they perform? They all moved around the restaurant singing and dancing as we waved our dollar bills.
[00:08:54] CHELSEY DONN: What a great time! A must if you have never been here before or are visiting from out of town, our server Mikey was great. She had a lot of tables but managed to keep us on her radar the entire night. The rest of the staff helped her along. Everyone was professional and very sweet. Parking can sometimes get tricky, depending on what night you come here.
[00:09:26] CHELSEY DONN: Arrive early to find parking. There's meter parking, a few lots in the area, and side streets that may require permits. Mm hmm. Please read all signs thoroughly to avoid towing.
[00:09:40] CHELSEY DONN: Or a ticket. This is a good time, so don't spoil your mood by getting a ticket. Bring plenty of dollar bills. You'll need them.
[00:09:50] CHELSEY DONN: These performers are great!
[00:09:53] CHELSEY DONN: Danny Kaye, Torta, Angina was on first season of RuPaul's Drag Race.
[00:10:01] TREY GERRALD: gotta settle the score., Trey and Chelsey will
[00:10:04] CHELSEY DONN: All right, so we have several photos because that seems to be part of Tessie's like ML, they love including photos, in fact, Tessie even included some videos, which I didn't really know was a thing that you could do on Yelp until Tessie, but right, but apparently you can, so we have the first one is Mary's seedy Paloma, a double baby, and it's just a picture of a And then the blue ocean, which is a picture of a blue drink with a lemon squeeze in it.
[00:10:33] CHELSEY DONN: Then we have a picture of the menu, which honestly is kind of appreciated because I think it's pretty much QR code these days, so that's not a bad thing to have in a review. Then we have me and our lovely server. I think it might be Mickey, you guys. Mickey. She was awesome. And we're finding out in this photo that Tessie is, I would say, Late 40s,
[00:11:00] CHELSEY DONN: they're holding up a peace sign wearing a kind of like boho top.
[00:11:04] CHELSEY DONN: They're giving a little like Idina Menzel vibes,
[00:11:08] CHELSEY DONN: a little bit. The next photo is, this is interesting, Trey, because we didn't do this. Mary Burger Kobe beef with Swiss cheese and fries. Yum! With four exclamation points. It definitely looks better than the burgers that we got. I think maybe we should have upgraded to the Kobe beef.
[00:11:25] CHELSEY DONN: Then there's a video of the inside. And then, a little video of just like, uh, Danny Kaye performing, Lana Del Rey, and a video of Angina from RuPaul's Drag Race performing.
[00:11:38] CHELSEY DONN: Then, we have just a photo of a drag queen singing, I don't know which queen that is. Celebrate here in style with a rainbow, big slice of rainbow cake with a sparkler, so obviously they're celebrating something.
[00:11:52] CHELSEY DONN: And then, there's a picture of Marilyn Monroe, like, near the bar. It says love the Marilyn pick on the wall inside. So many photos, guys. Then there's, there's Tessie is now sitting next to another girl that seems sort of in the same vein. She has tattoos, but she's wearing like a leopard print little cute dress.
[00:12:12] CHELSEY DONN: And she has one of those headbands that I love wearing with a little knot in the middle. And it says made a new friend. Meet Britney visiting from Vancouver. Cheers. And they're cheersing. It looks like this might be Tessie's daughter's. 21st birthday would be my guess because this next photo is Tessie with three girls and it says celebrating the girls turning 21.
[00:12:35] CHELSEY DONN: Maybe they're triplets, honestly. Actually, they kind of look like triplets. They might be. She could be a mother to triplets. God bless her. Okay, and then finally, Wow, Trey. Okay, I'll let you guess in a second. What girl wouldn't want a leopard pump with their bill server to them? I don't Means but basically they give you your check inside of a heel and so they got a Leopard heel and I want you to guess Trey now This is a 21st birthday of triplets with their mom any idea what the bill might have been
[00:13:11] TREY GERRALD: 472?
[00:13:13] CHELSEY DONN: Wow That's like higher than I thought you were going to guess.
[00:13:17] CHELSEY DONN: 328. 99.
[00:13:19] TREY GERRALD: Oof.
[00:13:21] CHELSEY DONN: That's a lot of, that's, that's more than I thought it was
[00:13:23] TREY GERRALD: Well, I've been in the one stars, so all I've been going through is
[00:13:27] CHELSEY DONN: That was how expensive it is. Yeah. So anyway, that's that.
[00:13:31] TREY GERRALD: So how many attachments do they have? Pictures and videos?
[00:13:34] CHELSEY DONN: Oh my God. So many guys, like 10, I think they max out.
[00:13:39] TREY GERRALD: They've created a maximum just for Tessie.
[00:13:41] TREY GERRALD: Y'all power.
[00:13:42] CHELSEY DONN: 9, 14, 15.
[00:13:44] CHELSEY DONN: 15.
[00:13:46] TREY GERRALD: Holy. Well, we gotta start at the top here. Obviously,
[00:13:49] TREY GERRALD: there is a lot of value, there's a lot of new, and there is a lot of unique information in
[00:13:54] TREY GERRALD: this Elite Reviewers Review.
[00:13:57] CHELSEY DONN: Agree.
[00:13:58] TREY GERRALD: Where they are a little vague in their actual name, the value of their product is really full.
[00:14:05] CHELSEY DONN: Agree.
[00:14:06] TREY GERRALD: They, I kind of find it endearing, but I also do think it is like, valuable to sort of walk through what the experience is.
[00:14:13] TREY GERRALD: It's like, you're going to
[00:14:14] TREY GERRALD: see a bunch of drag queens, you got to put dollars in the air, which they're always going to explain at the top of a drag show, they're going
[00:14:20] TREY GERRALD: to walk around, they're going to change clothes, you're going to have so much fun, there's going to be so many people, but the server will still keep up with you, the food is great, like they're really talking you through it, which I think there's value there because now that drag is more mainstream and less. Underground, it is sort of like any walk of life, can can go and feel welcome
[00:14:39] TREY GERRALD: and that might be intimidating if you have never been, So I actually appreciate Tessie walking us through that, I also think it's funny that at the top, They're like, the MC is gonna be shaming you! It's
[00:14:49] TREY GERRALD: fun, and then at the end, We're like, everyone's very professional and very sweet, I'm
[00:14:55] TREY GERRALD: like, I guess both of those are happening simultaneously,
[00:14:58] CHELSEY DONN: Well, maybe like the drunker you get, the more you're like, this is great.
[00:15:02] TREY GERRALD: Does Tessie write out the lyrics of I Am What I Am?
[00:15:05] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, they put them in quotes, but like that particular part of the song is like, it's not the beginning, like, I am what I am. Like, it's like a little bit more riffy part of the song, so I just didn't feel like singing it. So I figured I'd let everybody listen to it. But yes, it's like that exact part of the song in quotes.
[00:15:22] TREY GERRALD: You know, because obviously I Am What I Am is from the musical La Cage, and it was a very popular radio song and disco cover,
[00:15:32] TREY GERRALD: so it infiltrated past Broadway, but I do find it to be of a certain era,
[00:15:39] TREY GERRALD: But, like, to think, like, oh, like, what goes through my head when I think of, like, a drag show at Hamburger Mary's?
[00:15:45] TREY GERRALD: It would be the song, I Am What I Am! That's so funny!
[00:15:49] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, I mean, I get
[00:15:50] TREY GERRALD: But I think Tessie's meeting it as pure of heart as possible, which also is accurate.
[00:15:55] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, I agree.
[00:15:56] TREY GERRALD: I also, like, the helpfulness here, like, Chelsea and I had to move her
[00:16:01] TREY GERRALD: car and like we were dealing because it is like West Hollywood so you have all these permits and then the public parking which is across the street happened to be closed the day we were there and so that is very valuable because
[00:16:12] TREY GERRALD: if you are in Los Angeles and you're from, I don't know, Idaho, and you're like, let's go see Drag Queens, we're in LA, like, you may not know
[00:16:19] TREY GERRALD: the lay of the land,
[00:16:20] CHELSEY DONN: like Uber there, or really give yourself extra time
[00:16:25] CHELSEY DONN: to circle and find a spot.
[00:16:27] TREY GERRALD: I so love all of the photos, but like to take a photo with the server, which I just think is so funny. Because
[00:16:33] TREY GERRALD: you're seeing all these drag queens, but they're like, For the sake of my review, I need to get a picture with Mickey.
[00:16:40] CHELSEY DONN: Well, like I said, clearly photos are super, super important to them because they, like I said, have. 5, 327 photos from 634 reviews. I mean, I can quickly do some math, but like per capita,
[00:16:56] TREY GERRALD: I mean,
[00:16:57] CHELSEY DONN: of photos.
[00:16:58] TREY GERRALD: is not lazy. They're not doing the bare minimum.
[00:17:01] CHELSEY DONN: No, yeah, I mean, it's almost nine photos average per review, and that's a lot,
[00:17:07] TREY GERRALD: So spelling grammar, pretty perfect, right?
[00:17:10] CHELSEY DONN: yeah, really good, there was like one weird error in the last photo, which
[00:17:14] TREY GERRALD: like, a caption?
[00:17:15] CHELSEY DONN: not to stick the landing there, Tessie, but other than that, yeah, yeah,
[00:17:20] TREY GERRALD: I mean, I think this is truthful. I don't think At any point, Tessie's being shady.
[00:17:25] CHELSEY DONN: I think that Tessie really stays in that, like, happy, borderline, Pollyanna lane the whole time. I didn't see season one of Drag Race, so can you tell us anything about Angina?
[00:17:38] TREY GERRALD: Angina is a very beloved queen in the fandom. She is credited many times for giving season one a very raw authenticity because Angina reveals that they are HIV positive on season one.
[00:17:52] TREY GERRALD: Like on the runway, many auditors of the show have speculated the fact that Angina went there gave the show more credence that like, we're really doing something real here.
[00:18:03] TREY GERRALD: And we're, you know, what is the value of creating a different image? And, and then Angina, Had this sort of following where they, every single year of All Stars, there was a campaign for Angina to be on All Stars, and was never on, but then they did get on, like, season, All Star 6, maybe, or 7, or
[00:18:20] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. So they're a beloved member of the community. That's awesome. And then do we feel like this experience is common? I guess we can sort of use our own experience as some sort of mirror.
[00:18:34] TREY GERRALD: I mean, it's kind of like, cafeteria food, in a way, in my opinion, like, I wouldn't say that the food is tasty, I wouldn't say it's bad, but I
[00:18:42] TREY GERRALD: wouldn't
[00:18:43] CHELSEY DONN: wonder if we would have gotten the Kobe beef.
[00:18:45] TREY GERRALD: if you do the upcharge, I think it was like 6
[00:18:48] CHELSEY DONN: have like all these up charges that you could do, which I didn't do. But I wonder if like the food was so spectacular because. They got the Kobe, I don't know. So that's probably not common because I don't think a lot of people are gonna do that upcharge.
[00:19:02] CHELSEY DONN: I think in terms of like the entertainment quality and how much energy is in the room and how enthusiastic generally people are to be there and I think that could be pretty common.
[00:19:13] TREY GERRALD: I think so. And it feels like if you're going there for fun, you're going to have
[00:19:17] TREY GERRALD: fun. Will there be minor inconveniences here and there? Yeah, because there's a lot of people and it's like service. But
[00:19:22] TREY GERRALD: I mean, it's fun at the end of the day. It's a drag show.
[00:19:25] CHELSEY DONN: Totally agree. Were we humored, entertained?
[00:19:28] CHELSEY DONN: yeah,
[00:19:30] TREY GERRALD: I, you were, you were sort of speaking to something. There's this Pollyanna ishness is valuable and endearing, but it is also sort of like, well, do you just think like, Oh my gosh, the bathrooms had toilet paper. Oh my gosh. Like it
[00:19:44] TREY GERRALD: is sort of like,
[00:19:45] CHELSEY DONN: true,
[00:19:46] TREY GERRALD: But it's lacking any sort of edge or anything.
[00:19:49] TREY GERRALD: Like it's
[00:19:49] TREY GERRALD: just
[00:19:50] CHELSEY DONN: like usually we like a little bit of like a negative sandwich just to believe the review, like give me one thing that wasn't so great so that the things that you say are great have hold more value.
[00:20:01] TREY GERRALD: right. Cause it's really just a lot of data,
[00:20:03] CHELSEY DONN: lot of
[00:20:03] TREY GERRALD: especially with the images and the videos. So, it's data heavy more so than it is entertaining, I would say.
[00:20:10] CHELSEY DONN: I agree. And what do we feel like the overall impact is here? Like, are we going?
[00:20:15] TREY GERRALD: Yeah,
[00:20:16] CHELSEY DONN: I'm going.
[00:20:17] CHELSEY DONN: I think I might even be able to crown.
[00:20:19] TREY GERRALD: yeah, I could crown.
[00:20:21] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, let's go into the crowning.
[00:20:23] TREY GERRALD: we do, Chelsey
[00:20:26] CHELSEY DONN: for
[00:20:32] VOICEOVER: Lip Sync, for your life. Good luck, and don't f it up.
[00:20:40] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, Trey, this is Name That Lip Sync For Your Life. Okay, Trey, here's the deal. So, basically, I'm gonna ask you trivia questions
[00:20:50] CHELSEY DONN: about various lip syncs from RuPaul's Drag Race. Now, if you know the answer, Before I give your four options, you're gonna get double points.
[00:21:01] CHELSEY DONN: So I'll give you a second to write your answer and then I will read them aloud.
[00:21:05] CHELSEY DONN: You can just tell me if you're locked or if you want your options. Either way listeners, I'm going to give you the options.
[00:21:11] CHELSEY DONN: So here we go, Trey. Are you ready to name that lip sync for your life?
[00:21:18] TREY GERRALD: I think so, yes. Yes!
[00:21:20] CHELSEY DONN: alright, you got this. Okay, so Anitra and Marsha, Marsha, Marsha did an immediately iconic lip sync to which song?
[00:21:30] CHELSEY DONN: And do you know?
[00:21:31] TREY GERRALD: I know she jumps over her, but I don't remember the song.
[00:21:34] CHELSEY DONN: It's okay, so I can give you options if you, if you don't want the option of writing it down.
[00:21:39] TREY GERRALD: Yeah, I don't
[00:21:41] TREY GERRALD: I don't know.
[00:21:41] CHELSEY DONN: your options are Boss Bitch, by Doja Cat, Rain On Me, by Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande, Physical, by Dua Lipa, XS, by Rina Sawayama.
[00:22:02] TREY GERRALD: Oh, this is so wild. Uh, I, I think it might be physical. Oh,
[00:22:07] CHELSEY DONN: no, Trey, I thought, I really thought,
[00:22:10] TREY GERRALD: I don't know the newer seasons as much. I've only seen them
[00:22:12] CHELSEY DONN: okay. Well, we're not only gonna do newer seasons. Do you have a second guess for 50%? It's
[00:22:17] TREY GERRALD: I'm trying to think, why did she jump over her? Why did she leap over her? I don't even know what boss bitch is. So, rain on me? Oh, dear.
[00:22:27] CHELSEY DONN: actually Boss Bitch. I think it's that song, I'm a boss bitch, dunna, like, you know, dunna.
[00:22:33] TREY GERRALD: Okay.
[00:22:33] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah. Did that clear it up? Okay, wrong, moving on. Well, I'll try. Okay, in season 13, Denali defeated Kamara Hall in an iconic lip sync. Which 90s song did they lip sync to?
[00:22:49] TREY GERRALD: No, I don't know the song, I know what they were wearing, and she had that peacock thing, and Kamora Hall just stood there,
[00:22:54] TREY GERRALD: and the gorgeous dragon thing,
[00:22:57] CHELSEY DONN: that is true.
[00:22:58] TREY GERRALD: so I don't know, you'll have to give
[00:22:59] CHELSEY DONN: options are Barbie Girl
[00:23:02] CHELSEY DONN: by Aqua, Believe, that was a bad Cher impersonation, by Cher,
[00:23:07] TREY GERRALD: Believe
[00:23:08] TREY GERRALD: a hole!
[00:23:08] CHELSEY DONN: Believe, Um, Finally by CeCe
[00:23:13] CHELSEY DONN: Penniston,
[00:23:14] TREY GERRALD: obviously Dieter Reitz did that famously, yeah,
[00:23:17] CHELSEY DONN: so that's a good clue that maybe it's on that, or 100 percent
[00:23:22] CHELSEY DONN: Pure Love by Crystal Waters,
[00:23:30] TREY GERRALD: Well, I can remember Denali like duck walking and like being so fierce. I think it's a hundred percent pure love. I thank God.
[00:23:40] CHELSEY DONN: is correct,
[00:23:40] TREY GERRALD: These songs, I'm not a music person. I can tell you what they wore. I can tell you the size of their heels.
[00:23:46] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, well, it's okay, I
[00:23:47] TREY GERRALD: All right. That's fine. We're having fun. I'm Tessa and I'm having fun.
[00:23:51] TREY GERRALD: Tessie.
[00:23:52] CHELSEY DONN: Michaels was the undisputed lip sync assassin of Season 10, but who did she eliminate during a lip sync of Lizzo's Good As Hell? Do you want your options or do you want to guess?
[00:24:06] TREY GERRALD: Well, I know Cameron was good friends with Eureka, but they made it to the finale. Season 10s, 10s,
[00:24:14] TREY GERRALD: 10s across the board. Asia O'Hare was Butterfly, so she was the finale.
[00:24:19] CHELSEY DONN: my god, the butterflies.
[00:24:21] TREY GERRALD: And that's Aquaria. Aquaria runs season 10, right? Or is she 11? I don't know. I don't know who Cameron
[00:24:26] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, let's give you the options. Is it Mayhem Miller,
[00:24:31] TREY GERRALD: No, she went earlier.
[00:24:32] CHELSEY DONN: Monet X Change,
[00:24:34] CHELSEY DONN: Blair St. Clair, or The Vixen?
[00:24:38] TREY GERRALD: Jesus.
[00:24:38] CHELSEY DONN: Who did Cameron Michaels defeat with Lizzo's Good As Hell?
[00:24:43] TREY GERRALD: Feeling good, isn't it? This is really a challenge.
[00:24:50] CHELSEY DONN: I thought this would be like, this is a very niche game. I hope our listeners watch Drag Race. If you don't, you can fast forward. But I thought Trey knows everything about Drag Race. He's my Drag Race, like, fairy godmother.
[00:25:01] TREY GERRALD: but, but like, I don't know these seasons. Okay, Cameron Michaels. I wonder if Cameron eliminated Monet. Blair is so random, but I also don't remember who eliminated the Vixen. I'm gonna, I'm just gonna say Monet, because I think Monet is interesting. Oh, wow.
[00:25:19] CHELSEY DONN: is correct. Very good, Trey.
[00:25:22] TREY GERRALD: quit drag. Look at that.
[00:25:23] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, see? Okay, in Valentina's infamous Season 9 lip sync, which Ariana Grande, which, okay,
[00:25:31] TREY GERRALD: Greedy!
[00:25:31] CHELSEY DONN: I'd like
[00:25:32] TREY GERRALD: You know that I'm greedy for cum.
[00:25:34] CHELSEY DONN: okay, write it down if you think you know the
[00:25:37] TREY GERRALD: I know what the song is.
[00:25:39] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, okay, that's what we're asking, but for our listeners, for our listeners, for our listeners,
[00:25:45] TREY GERRALD: Sorry.
[00:25:45] CHELSEY DONN: going to write it down because I think he knows. Alright, which Ariana Grande song did she not know the word to so she kept her mask on? Ready? Was it Ariana Grande's One Last Time?, was it The Way?, was it Into You?, or was it Greedy?, and Trey has written down the answer for this one, so he's up for double points. That's right, Trey. He gets double points for that because it is greedy.
[00:26:10] TREY GERRALD: I'd like to keep it on, please.
[00:26:12] CHELSEY DONN: like to keep it on, please. That's such an iconic, amazing moment. All right. In season eight, going a little bit earlier, maybe this is helpful, Bob, the drag queen, only landed once in the bottom two. Who did she lip sync against and ultimately end up sending home? Do you know before I give the answers to our listeners?
[00:26:32] TREY GERRALD: Is it Derek?
[00:26:33] CHELSEY DONN: Write it down if you think you know.
[00:26:38] TREY GERRALD: Sorry. Yeah.
[00:26:39] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, Okay, writing it down. Okay, perfect. Is it Chi Chi Devane, Thorgy Thor, Acid Betty, or Derrick Barry? Okay, Trey, you've written it down. You want to hold it up?
[00:26:55] TREY GERRALD: thought very certain that it was Derek Barry.
[00:26:58] CHELSEY DONN: You're right. It is Derrick Barry.
[00:27:00] TREY GERRALD: But my question was, was it Thorgy? Because they had such a storyline. But
[00:27:04] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, it was Derrick. Good guess. Double points. In Season 5, Jinx Monsoon only landed once in the bottom two.
[00:27:14] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, so write it down. Who did she lip sync against and ultimately end up sending home?
[00:27:20] CHELSEY DONN: Listeners, was it Alyssa Edwards, Detox, Coco Montrese, or Ivy Winters? Trey is holding it up for double points and he has written, Detox, and Detox is the correct answer, Trey. See, things are really turning
[00:27:40] TREY GERRALD: Wow, wow, wow,
[00:27:44] CHELSEY DONN: That's amazing. Yeah, right? Okay, here we
[00:27:46] TREY GERRALD: and they famously changed that number the morning
[00:27:49] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, did they?
[00:27:49] TREY GERRALD: yeah,
[00:27:50] CHELSEY DONN: Really?
[00:27:51] TREY GERRALD: on set knew it was being rigged for a jinx,
[00:27:54] CHELSEY DONN: it was being rigged? We'll talk about that in
[00:27:56] TREY GERRALD: yeah, because all the queens were giving her makeup, they were told they had to help her with her makeup off camera, but we'll talk
[00:28:01] TREY GERRALD: about it on
[00:28:01] CHELSEY DONN: I didn't we'll talk about it in the after show. Okay, in season five, Trey,
[00:28:06] CHELSEY DONN: when Roxie Andrews did her iconic double wig reveal, What song
[00:28:13] TREY GERRALD: Christ.
[00:28:14] CHELSEY DONN: was she lip syncing to? Do you want options?
[00:28:17] TREY GERRALD: I can see it, RuPaul's in green. It's against Alyssa. Shut Up and Drive is All Stars 2. Fuck. What is the song? Oh, oh, oh, I know what it
[00:28:26] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, write it down, write it down. All right, Queens, here are your options. Is it Get the Party Started by Pink, S& M by Rihanna, On the Floor by Jennifer Lopez, or Or Whip My Hair by Willow Smith. Okay. I see Willow Smith and I think it says Whip My
[00:28:48] TREY GERRALD: I said hair back and forth, Willow
[00:28:49] CHELSEY DONN: That's fine. I'll take it. I'll accept it. Double points for you, Trey. Wow. I'm very impressed. You're already at 10 points. See, this is why I had to make it a little difficult. Listeners, how are you doing? I hope you listen. I hope
[00:29:01] TREY GERRALD: watch Tigress. Yes.
[00:29:12] CHELSEY DONN: what did she add to her farewell message? Do you know?
[00:29:17] TREY GERRALD: Well, I think, I think I know what you're asking.
[00:29:20] CHELSEY DONN: Alright, write it down. Was it, covered almost all the mirror with shaving cream, drew a giant middle finger, Put her butt imprint on the mirror, Drew two giant eyes with the note they're always watching, Spread lipstick from ass, That's correct, and it's correct,
[00:29:42] TREY GERRALD: so smeared, lipstick from ass.
[00:29:45] CHELSEY DONN: Yes, that's right. That was an iconic moment. Okay, another bonus, listeners. In season two, Jujubee did an infamous lip sync while very drunk against Sahara Davenport. What song did they perform?
[00:29:59] TREY GERRALD: I have no fucking idea,
[00:30:01] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, is it Black Velvet, I'm a Slave for You, I'm Only Happy When It Rains, or Fancy?
[00:30:13] TREY GERRALD: Black Velvet,
[00:30:14] CHELSEY DONN: That is correct. Trey, you are crushing
[00:30:17] TREY GERRALD: but that's only one point,
[00:30:18] CHELSEY DONN: All right, here's another lip sync question. The 20 best drag race all star lip syncs of all time, okay.
[00:30:24] TREY GERRALD: Says who?
[00:30:25] CHELSEY DONN: Says BuzzFeed.
[00:30:26] TREY GERRALD: Okay,
[00:30:27] CHELSEY DONN: Any guesses, all stars, for the number
[00:30:32] TREY GERRALD: oh I know without a doubt,
[00:30:33] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, what is
[00:30:34] TREY GERRALD: do I need to write it?
[00:30:35] TREY GERRALD: down?
[00:30:35] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, sure, write it down.
[00:30:36] TREY GERRALD: Okay, I already said it earlier,
[00:30:38] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, so, your options are, did you write it?
[00:30:41] TREY GERRALD: yeah,
[00:30:42] CHELSEY DONN: Asia vs. Ben DeLaCreme and Nicki Minaj's Anaconda, Jujubee vs.
[00:30:47] CHELSEY DONN: Raven to Robyn's Dancing on My Own, Trinity K. Bonet vs. Laganja Estranja to Dua Lipa's
[00:30:56] TREY GERRALD: that's Physical,
[00:30:58] TREY GERRALD: duh,
[00:31:00] CHELSEY DONN: Alyssa Edwards vs. Tatiana Tariana's Shout Up and Dance.
[00:31:05] TREY GERRALD: shut up and drive,
[00:31:06] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, shit. Or Alyssa Edwards versus Tatiana Triana's Shut Up and Drive. He's doing the choreography.
[00:31:19] TREY GERRALD: Obviously, it's Shut Up and Drive, Alyssa
[00:31:21] CHELSEY DONN: up and drive and drive. Okay, that's great. You have 15 points so far. Okay. All right. Two more quick questions that I know you're going to now. All right. Along with Mike Ruiz, who was the very first extra special guest judge on the first episode of Drag Race.
[00:31:38] TREY GERRALD: The first episode?
[00:31:40] CHELSEY DONN: The first episode.
[00:31:42] TREY GERRALD: I
[00:31:42] CHELSEY DONN: Tell me if you want options.
[00:31:43] TREY GERRALD: I know who it is.
[00:31:45] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, we're out of time. Okay, is it Lady Bunny, Michelle Visage, Martha Walsh, or Bob Mackie?
[00:31:58] TREY GERRALD: Cher Designer, Bob Mackie.
[00:32:00] CHELSEY DONN: That is correct! Trey, I'm so proud of you. And your final question listeners, in case you're behind and you want to catch up with Trey, I'll give you five points if you get this right and Trey ten, but even though I know he's gonna get it right, okay? Complete the iconic The Treece Royale quote from season four, Get those,
[00:32:20] TREY GERRALD: Blank. The, the rest of it are just that. Okay.
[00:32:24] CHELSEY DONN: say the rest of the quote.
[00:32:26] TREY GERRALD: Okay. I'm writing it down.
[00:32:28] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, you're running out of time. And is it, Bags of bad sheep drag away from my things and take them right back to Party City. Is it, get those two worn out butt pads, put them together and see if you can form half a brain? Is it, get those children together because I'm about to teach a lesson at the foolishness school? Or is it, those nuts away from my face? Face.
[00:33:05] TREY GERRALD: I mean, those are some incredible options. But,
[00:33:09] TREY GERRALD: unfortunately, get those nuts away from my face,
[00:33:15] CHELSEY DONN: Madre,
[00:33:16] TREY GERRALD: I was doing the head, but I covered myself with my,
[00:33:18] TREY GERRALD: get those nuts
[00:33:20] CHELSEY DONN: away from my
[00:33:21] CHELSEY DONN: face,
[00:33:23] CHELSEY DONN: That was like one of the moments that I fell in love with La Royale, who is top two? One of my favorite drag queens, along with the iconic Bianca obviously. Alright, 27 points. Trey. Whoo, Trey! You crushed the game as I knew you would. I made you a little nervous there in the beginning because I had to.
[00:33:48] TREY GERRALD: oh my
[00:33:49] CHELSEY DONN: wanted you to feel like you had a challenge.
[00:33:51] TREY GERRALD: well it's because all of the earlier seasons I've watched multiple times, but
[00:33:55] TREY GERRALD: like, once it gets to literally season 9, I've, I think I've never watched them again.
[00:34:00] CHELSEY DONN: okay, makes sense. Well, either way, you crushed it, Queen. Great job.
[00:34:04] TREY GERRALD: Oh, okay, I can exhale. All
[00:34:09] VOICEOVER: Review That Review,
[00:34:13] TREY GERRALD: right, well, that was a rousing game break. Thank you for that fun, Chelsey.
[00:34:18] CHELSEY DONN: You're welcome. Listeners, I hope you watch Drag Race, and if you don't, seriously, check it
[00:34:22] TREY GERRALD: Yeah, like, I told Chelsey for a very long time she would love it, and she loves it.
[00:34:27] CHELSEY DONN: And it's my life now.
[00:34:28] TREY GERRALD: if you haven't watched it, you're
[00:34:30] TREY GERRALD: just missing out on some joy. You know, that's all that you're missing out on. And what do we need more of? Joy.
[00:34:35] CHELSEY DONN: and also if you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love someone else? Can I get an amen?
[00:34:40] TREY GERRALD: Amen up in here.
[00:34:41] TREY GERRALD: All right, so let's crown. So Chelsey and I each have our own set of zero to five crowns and in an effort to be fair, not influence one another, now that we've taken a little break to ruminate,
[00:34:50] TREY GERRALD: we're going to simultaneously reveal our ratings.
[00:34:53] CHELSEY DONN: do it.
[00:34:54] VOICEOVER: The queens are tabulating,
[00:35:01] VOICEOVER: Time for school,
[00:35:01] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, the Queens are unanimous, four and a half, four and a half, Trey you go first, by four and a half, crowns for Tessie B.
[00:35:08] TREY GERRALD: almost said five, Review Queen, it's not their fault, they didn't have anything negative to contribute, But, I said four and a half because it's exceedingly valuable, it's exceedingly dense with data, So many pictures, it's almost a little too much, but, it's lacking a little entertainment, There's something about it that's just a little, like, my eyes are glazing over, Cause it's, it's just, like, so rich. But I, I love that Tessie had their life and had a great time and they're making it easier for people that might be trepidatious to like go and feel like they can. So, four and a half crowns, great job. I would just add a little more like humor maybe, or I would, you know, it doesn't have to be a negative point, but just something that makes it feel a little more, Balanced and not just so like you're gushing.
[00:35:55] TREY GERRALD: 'cause it's a little bit like, uh, like un unless, you know, unless you just say like, I've never in my life experienced anything like this, which it doesn't seem like that was the experience. It just is. So, it's a little, it's a little bland in its praise. So four and a half. Chelsea, why did you say four and a half?
[00:36:09] CHELSEY DONN: I think that this review is dripping with value. There's so much information here. I even love that we're mentioning that we have on Gina from RuPaul's Drag Race, which is getting me kind of excited. Like maybe I can see a contestant from Drag Race on here, the parking tip, you know, even like the nod to the Kobe beef.
[00:36:28] CHELSEY DONN: Maybe I need to upgrade to the Kobe beef next time. I think there's a lot of value here. And that was I went with four and a half crowns. I also similarly, because maybe I'm a little bit cynical at this point in my Review Queen career, wish that there was something a little bit negative, a little bit more grounded, but at the same time, I want to give Tess the benefit of the doubt that maybe this is just who they are.
[00:36:51] CHELSEY DONN: Maybe Tess is a yoga teacher, um, when they're not doing this and they really take their word very seriously. And when they enjoy something, they go all in. So I think it's a good review. Not a hundred percent of Review Queen, but nearly there. Four and a half crowns for Tess B.
[00:37:06] TREY GERRALD: Great job, great find.
[00:37:08] CHELSEY DONN: Thank you.
[00:37:09] TREY GERRALD: Alright, well now that we have covered the five
[00:37:13] CHELSEY DONN: Yes.
[00:37:14] TREY GERRALD: it's my turn.
[00:37:15] TREY GERRALD: And everyone, I want you to know, we're gonna go on a trip on Friday. So I have a one star Yelp review written by John with no H, but their last name is starting with an H.
[00:37:30] CHELSEY DONN: Interesting.
[00:37:31] TREY GERRALD: It's gonna, well, I don't want to give too much away, but it's going to be fun.
[00:37:34] TREY GERRALD: So if you want to hear the flip side, you must go over immediately. If you're listening on Apple podcasts, you can just one click and you get to join and you get to listen, you got to join the Patreon. If you don't know where to do that, go to ReviewThatReview. com slash Patreon. Where, Chelsey?
[00:37:54] CHELSEY DONN: ReviewThatReview. com slash Patreon. You know it, Queens.
[00:37:58] TREY GERRALD: We did it, Queen! My voice has been fine this entire
[00:38:01] CHELSEY DONN: I know.
[00:38:02] TREY GERRALD: I went up an inflection on the word, Queen, that is another round on the R U A R Q, I'd like to keep it on, please, Ferris wheel,
[00:38:11] CHELSEY DONN: That's right. Thank you for joining us today. If you like what you heard, please tell a friend or a hamburger.
[00:38:17] TREY GERRALD: you did not like what you heard, please tell an enemy, or a hamburger, On this week's After Show pod, Chelsey and I are both taking a spin on the Meryl Go Round, as well as rating and reviewing the opposite flip side, that, that would be back to, that's redundant, reviewing the flip side of the review spectrum for Hamburger Mary's in West Hollywood.
[00:38:41] CHELSEY DONN: That's right. And I wonder why this was said. The waiter is like just hocking your trinik, trying to sell you this like souvenir boot drink thing. He's like, it's the price, it's just so confusing, even the way they say it. I'm like, I don't, I don't know. I feel like I'm being tricked here. Also, I don't want to have to commit to drinking a boot or I don't want to have to be like I'm getting a drink.
[00:39:06] CHELSEY DONN: And then you're getting a drink. So we're just going to share this boot. I don't know. Maybe I'm too old for boots,
[00:39:13] TREY GERRALD: That's probably gonna be the teaser.
[00:39:16] CHELSEY DONN: but honestly,
[00:39:19] TREY GERRALD: Hmm, I'm over here wandering too. Well, only one way to find out.
[00:39:24] CHELSEY DONN: yeah. ReviewThatReview. com slash Patreon.
[00:39:28] TREY GERRALD: than coffee.
[00:39:30] CHELSEY DONN: Just
[00:39:30] TREY GERRALD: Now remember, Queens,
[00:39:31] CHELSEY DONN: Ignore the haters. You're a charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent queen.
[00:39:37] TREY GERRALD: ginger non specific, charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent. Queen.
[00:39:41] TREY GERRALD: Bye.
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[00:40:10] TREY GERRALD: What's your favorite Drag Race lip sync? No,
[00:40:13] CHELSEY DONN: Probably the Alyssa Edwards, Rox, was it Roxy Alyssa on All Stars?
[00:40:20] TREY GERRALD: Tatiana.
[00:40:21] CHELSEY DONN: Tatiana, was that it?
[00:40:23] TREY GERRALD: Mm hmm. Shut Up and Drive?
[00:40:25] CHELSEY DONN: Probably that one. That was such a good season. All Stars 2 was like the
[00:40:30] CHELSEY DONN: perfect season and now I've been like watching back to back and back to back and I still feel like I'm excited to watch more All Stars now that I'm invested in the Queens, but that season in general was just delicious.
[00:40:44] TREY GERRALD: once you start watching the internationals, like you, you've said a few times on the show, Drippin and it makes me
[00:40:50] TREY GERRALD: think of UK season one.
[00:40:53] TREY GERRALD: I'm drippin I'm drippin
[00:40:57] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. Well, I don't get that reference yet, but I'm assuming I will one day soon.
[00:41:01] TREY GERRALD: I'm drippin
[00:41:02] TREY GERRALD: Also, you can't watch All Winners, All Stars season seven until you watch UK. No, season one.
[00:41:09] CHELSEY DONN: Oh,
[00:41:10] TREY GERRALD: The winner of season one is
[00:41:11] TREY GERRALD: on All Stars
[00:41:12] CHELSEY DONN: All right. I mean right now I'm on season 13 I'm really like I'm almost done I'm almost caught up, but I didn't I'm not even watching the live all star because I wanted to meet Gottmik Which who I love but we'll talk about that in the after show. See you on Friday Queens
[00:41:28] TREY GERRALD: Bye.
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